Nissan is not selling this in America

"El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First!" (lightningzone) 09/07/2014 at 14:39 • Filed to: None

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...instead of the Sentra, 'cause too much freedom.

See manual gearbox.

PS9 > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 09/07/2014 at 14:53

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Goddamnit.

jvirgs drives a Subaru > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 09/07/2014 at 15:12

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Steering wheel is just hideous

Devilishprune > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 09/07/2014 at 15:27

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Isn't this thing just a Versa note?

Steve in Manhattan > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 09/07/2014 at 15:36

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I haven't bought a car since 1997 (live in NYC) so I have no idea - is it possible to get one in, say, Canada and import it?

ranwhenparked > Steve in Manhattan 09/07/2014 at 15:54

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Not US-legal, Nissan hasn't certified it here.

Steve in Manhattan > jvirgs drives a Subaru 09/07/2014 at 15:55

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I recall the lovely throwback wheel in the new Camaro, which they replaced with the same one you find in a Malibu - bad idea:

Steve in Manhattan > ranwhenparked 09/07/2014 at 15:58

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Shouldn't we just be accepting the Euro NCAP test results at this point?

El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! > Devilishprune 09/07/2014 at 16:33

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No, it's Ford Focus sized, see here , how Nissan UK is selling it alongside the Note.

ranwhenparked > Steve in Manhattan 09/07/2014 at 17:38

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Yes, we should. But, that would require using logic, and the government generally tries to avoid that.

Steve in Manhattan > ranwhenparked 09/07/2014 at 17:54

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I am as liberal as they come, and I have no problem with regulation - that's why we have seat and shoulder belts and 5 mph bumpers - ugly, yes, but a good idea. But, in my humble opinion, if someone wants to buy a car in, say, Belgium that meets emissions standards but not our crash standards, let them. The insurer can charge them accordingly. And if they're in a no insurance jurisdiction, if they're in an accident they'll pay the price, if there's any price to pay. If my US spec Accord hits a Japanese-spec or Euro NCAP-spec Accord I'm guessing my damages will be no different than a US/US collision.

Ideally, everyone would get together and agree on worldwide safety standards, that way manufacturers could make one version of the Miata instead of fourteen. Saves money ....

ranwhenparked > Steve in Manhattan 09/07/2014 at 18:00

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Standards are important, yes, but the American FMVSS serves more as a trade barrier than anything, considering that most of the rest of the world has signed on to the World Forum for Harmonization of Vehicle Regulations. At the very least, we should at least recognize that vehicles that are safe enough for sale in other developed countries with strong regulatory regimes of their own (eg, EU and Japan) should be perfectly fine for our roads.

Steve in Manhattan > ranwhenparked 09/07/2014 at 18:23

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Agree on all points. I like being safe, but I also think that if something you want is close to the mark, you should be able to buy it. I remember the first time I went to Europe, specifically Belgium, and realized you could buy a W123 or W124 with a five speed, with cloth interior, with a 2.o liter gas or diesel engine, without automatic climate control, with crank windows, with manually adjustable seats. What Mercedes, and many other manufacturers decided, was they'd test the loaded version of each model because we would have made them test each engine transmission combination, and that was expensive. How cool would it be to buy a stripped BMW 3 series with cloth interior, crank windows, a 2 liter turbo, basic A/C, and few other options. I would not deselect ABS or stability control, but if you wanted to I would not object.